Taiwanese girls: What experts say
The ultimative guide for Westerners, who are interested in Taiwanese women
I'm a young healthy European guy and I moved to Taiwan. I was forced to marry my Taiwanese wife, because her culture said so. And thus I decided to write this post, because I would like to warn other foreigners to not not follow my steps. This post is dedicated to all of you from first world countries, who plan to move to Taiwan in order to pursue a career in primary education and help the local children developing emotional, social, and intellectual skills from infancy to adulthood. We need you, of course, but be warned: The extremely aggressive female population is waiting to abduct you - literally on every corner. And that's just the most harmless thing a Taiwanese woman can do to you. If you wanna know more, read on.
Many foreign guys ask themselves: How are Taiwanese girls really? Of course by spending nearly 8 months on this island, I know almost exactly, how most of them are, maybe I missed to see few of them, but I believe I still have a good grip of the whole female population here. However, there are various real experts on the Internets, who know Taiwanese women much better than me and I decided to collect their best moments and share them with you here, just for your reference. This is of course just one part of the enormous resource on Taiwanese women you can find online: Some of it might surprise you, some of it might shock you, but one thing is sure: This is all 100% true, as these boys are truly experienced and razor sharp analysts.
Following is a look on Taiwanese women through the eyes of a selected group of foreigners. The text with a grey font and background is someone's quote from a blog or forum and includes a link to the source in the title. Under every quote is a small commentary written by me. I am just reposting what I found online and I am not associated with any of the persons or websites below.
This is what world's finest experts say about Taiwanese girls:
1. The psycho mei mei Taiwanese girl
Chinese Forums, Source: Chinese girls vs. Taiwanese girls forum
Firstly I should say that I happen to prefer TW girls in the way they look, not just fashion wise, but just the way they look, like bigger eyes and softer features. So needless to say when a pretty TW girl asked me to be her boyfriend I couldnt resist - WOW, my first asian gf at the age of 22 (I started late
). She was incredibly cute sweet but after 6 months the novelty of a pretty face wears off when all you hear is nagging, she was soooooooooo demanding in every way, she called me like a million times a day and after a while she was even trying to control what time I went to sleep and woke up! I spent sooo much money on the girl it was unreal!... 'materialistic' isn't the word
Anyway, when I finally broke up with her it was a complete disaster she turned into the legendary 'psycho mei mei' type, just the type my TW expat friends had told me to avoid at all costs.
On the postive sideall my friends were jealous, especially the asian guys
and she was *insane* in bed
My more mature friends assured me that it was just a case of her being young and immature, no wonder why you guys on here are dating older TW girls, they're much easier to date, from what i've heard. (by user g1zmo)
What he said is of course completely true. I have seen so many psycho mei meis around Taipei, it's quite scary. You can see them with their bedazzled cellphones full of Hello Kitty key chains, how they shout and scream and try to control the poor Western guy. Sometimes they would also scratch your face in front of their other psycho mei mei friends, who will then take trophy photos with your heavily scarred face (and keep in mind, that Taiwanese girls have insanely sharp nails).
2. In public cold fish, in private hot
Orient Expat, Source: Tell me about girls in Taiwan forum
I spent 14 months in Taiwan (Jul 06-Aug 07). I dated a few Taiwanese from 25-43. They all had the same characterisitcs. Financially independent (one was actually very rich). No action until at least the third date. Then they had to say 'no' three times, even while undressing themsleves. Then....... they wanted to get married and started talking about it.
In public, cold fish. In private, hot.
But, they are basically interested in their career and clothes. Thanks to the effeminate nature of their young men and the drunken behavior of the old men, the ladies are not interested in men.
Thank good that Thailand, the Philippines and Hong Kong were all easy to reach.
(by user Raven767)
This is of course completely true. My career oriented and clothes obsessed cold fish wife couldn't agree more. She married me, but only to have this ticked off from their parents' expectation chart. Now she's mostly focused on career and clothes and I'm regularly flying to Thailand.
3. If you're white that's automatically +3
Asia Finest, Source: What are Taiwanese girl like forum
Stereotypically have high standards income wise. you better be rich. they will marry rich with less regards to looks and personality although they want both. they say taiwanese girls have too high of standards and thats why taiwan has the 4th highest divorce rate in the world.
(they want rich guys that are Romeo's.)
if you're white that's automatically +3. more especially so if she's a foreign student. and this is all in the assumption that she is of normal intelligence as most people are
oh, they love brand names. coach, lv, gucci, lacoste, (seems like a fob brand) tommy, etc. (by user mndeg)
I completely agree. If you're a rich guy and Romeo, you will have no problems with getting a Taiwanese girl. Can you imagine, if you're rich, a Romeo and white at the same time? That's probably +6 then.
4. Associate with people from Asia
Dating a Taiwanese Girl, Source: Taiwan Secrets
When you are dating a Taiwanese girls it is necessary that one has self control not to praise a lot about her physical appearance and make her jittery. In order to draw the interest of the Taiwanese girls one should have funniness in their talk which most of these girls like. In addition, instead of doing all talking also let the girl talk for some time i.e. you should also be a good listener. One more important trick that you can make use of is to have association of people from Asia. When dating a Taiwanese girl this will help you adjust to their people and traditions as well.
One should try to create a well mannered effect on Taiwan girls which is very important. You need to portray yourself as a down to earth and unfussy person. It is necessary to know the Taiwan culture as it is quite different from that of the US or UK. You should intermingle well with girls in Taiwan
Taiwanese girls are attracted to westerners very easily so all that is required by you is to maintain a good rapport or reputation with your Taiwan girl. This will make the things more simple for you. In order to continue the conversation you should talk in tune with the Taiwanese girl that love to talk as much as possible about their family and friends.
Awesome tips! I used that trick on my wife and wore a Qing dynasty shirt on the first date and tried to impersonate Bruce Lee. It worked.
5. You are special in Puerto Plata
Questions and Answers about Taiwanese Singles, Source: Taiwanesewomen.net
1. How big is Taiwan? It is the Eastern half of an island in Asia. The people are a mix of Oriental, Middle East, African and Native Indian.
2. What is the best location? All the locations are very good but Taiwan is the best if you like dark, Asian women. We have about 70% of the men getting engaged on their first visit.
3. Is this place safe to go to. I have heard bad things about Asia? All our locations in Asia are safe to go to. Over 3000 men from the United States go to Asia each year to meet women in introduction agencies. None have ever had any problems to our knowledge.
4. Does Taipei have a airport, what is the symbol? Yes, The airport symbol for the Taipei area is POP in Puerto Plata. Flights come from Miami, Houston, Panama City- Panama, and New York City. The airport is 15 minutes from the agency.
5. What is my money worth in Asia? The US Dollar and Euro are worth 2-3 times as much. You can change the money at Yen or use an ATM or Credit Card with a 4 digit pin number. There are ATM machines everywhere.
6. How do I call the USA or Europe from Asia? Go to a internet café and ask to use the internet phone. It goes through the internet and is cheap at around 10 cents a minute.
7. Is there a gym to work out in? There is one gym in Taipei and a few more in Puerto Plata.[...]
1. I am just a average man, why would such beautiful women be interested in meeting me? You are not average in their eyes, you are very special. You are a very rare option with qualities, men in her country do not have. They are convinced men from the USA and Europe are much more faithful. The women also want an older man, they feel the older men are more stable and less likely to cheat on them.
Great tips! In Puerto Plata, but even more so in Taipei, you will find a lot of Indian restaurants, they are usually full to the last bit. That one gym in Taipei is usually full, too, but you can always go to Puerto Plata, they have a plenty available for you.
6 Take it, squeeze it and let it go
Meeting a Taiwanese girl, Source: Taiwan Pirate
Girls may seem outgoing, flirty, relaxed, because they watch 'sex in the city' and are independent. This doesn't mean they will go home with you. However, some might. Don't be a jerk and assume a girl wants to sleep with you. Don't ask her if she will. Taiwanese girls are like girls everywhere, they respond to touch - a universal language. Can't speak to them? Doesn't matter!
When you meet them, get a phone number or msn and ask them out (some girls don't like to go dancing or to a bar; if they don't, then take them to a park or coffee shop). Initiate touch early - but be careful! Don't grab at them. Joke and make fun of them a little, tease them. If they laugh or punch your arm or shove you, that's good. If you get the chance, try brushing your fingers over her arm or leg. Don't grab and hold her hand, but if your hands bump into each other often, take it, squeeze it, and let it go. Eventually - if you find you're holding hands with her, it's probably ok to kiss. If you can kiss her, invite her home (make sure you have a reason - not just sex). Invite her for dinner, or to see your book collection or something.
Ok ok, so for some guys, this process of courting might be too long, maybe you're on holiday and just want to find a girl quickly. Go to the bar, smile really big and stupidly, and try and dance with all the girls there. Most of them will run and hide. The slutty ones will grind up against you and you can probably take them home. But know that you're lowering the already poor repution foreigners have here.
This is truly a treasure! Best is, you pretend you're deaf mute and touching is the only way for you to communicate. Try to tell her that by writing it on her back with your finger - in traditional Chinese! That will surely impress her.
7 She wouldn't even take her top off
The Beijinger, Source: Are Taiwanese girls much different?
I have one buddy who dated a Taiwanese girl. He said she wouldn't even take her top off during sex. I ain't saying that's all Taiwanese women, but there you go. (by Jeremy)
He has a strong argument! And I ain't saying every Taiwanese girl wears Hello Kitty socks, but once my friend told me he saw one, so there you go.
8 Taiwanese women don't yell or scream
Prlog.org, Source: Have You Thought about Dating a Taiwanese Girl?
Taiwanese women, unlike Western woman, do not tend to yell and scream, as they have been taught from an early age to show respect and honour their home and family.
That's of course 100% true. So far there is no official account of a yelling or screaming Taiwanese woman. If ever there was a woman screaming, she was immediately deported on the other side of the Taiwan Strait.
9 You'll have to beat the girls off with sticks
Michael Turton, Source: The Social Side
Most males will have no trouble finding girlfriends. Caucasian male foreigners are appreciated, even sought after, and you will see many Taiwanese female/foreign male relationships. Slim, blonde-haired, blue-eyed males will have to beat the girls off with sticks. Taiwanese women prefer tall, thin, men but a stocky guy like me never had any trouble dating here.[...]
Finally, don't be fooled by politeness. Politeness is to Chinese culture what a pearl is to an oyster: a beautiful secretion around a major irrititant. It is the opposite of being accepted. Its purpose is to keep you at arms length and under control. You know you are accepted when they start treating you like crap just like everyone else.
So true! As a Caucasian fairly slim almost blue eyed male with lots of secretions I can wholeheartedly confirm, that I need to carry a stick with me to beat off all the clingy Taiwanese girls, when I go to work. They are like flies. During rain I use the umbrella.
10 Taiwanese girls talk to ugly American boy
Lang-8.com, Source: Most of Taiwanese girls like foreigners
Taiwanese are xenomanias. I am not saying all the Taiwanese are all like this, but most of Taiwanese have this trend including me. If there are two boys standing in fornt of me, one is a Taiwanese and another is an American, I will talk to the American boy. Even the Taiwanese is really a handsome man and the American is ugly, I will first talk to the American. Why? It's all out of curiosity. The first sight I see is their appearance, the American is so different with me, so I am curious.
This is exactly as I saw it many times near Longshan temple in Taipei.
11 Beware of single suspicious Taiwan women
Asian Nation, Source: Taiwanese dating profiles
Ask a lot of questions when communicating and be alert for inconsistencies or requests for money. Make notes if you are suspicious of single taiwan women. If you are suspicious of taiwan brides or if someone asks you for money, use common sense and then report the situation to the taiwanese brides website. This is simply most websites do not validate the identity of a member or the information that they submit on a profile.
Useful warning! Taiwanese women are always suspicious, especially if they dress up as brides. Don't be fooled, they will ask you for money, usually they will say something like: "Give me money!" When you hear this, don't be fooled and ask a lot of questions.
12 Taiwanese girls won't value your time
Girls Chase, Source: Helping Women to Respect Your Time
I don't know if it's a uniquely Taipei-thing, but it seems to be: I'm running into scads and scads of women who are trying to cram me into their schedules and not properly valuing my time. Frankly, this kind of behavior drives me rather nuts. Maybe this is what things look like in a developed nation where women are accustomed to submissive men. I don't know. At first I thought I was having an attraction problem; maybe girls in Taipei just don't like my flavor of sexiness.
No doubt, it's all about the flavor of sexiness. And in order for a Taiwanese woman to handle all your flavors, she'll need to make schedules of course.
13 I thought she would have been tighter
Gaijin Pot, Source: Taiwanese girl
Met a Taiwanese girl in The Muse then arranged meet last night - Sunday night. She didnt pay for any of the food and came back to my place. We got down to it quite quickly. I thought she would have been tighter as the last Taiwanese girl I was with was super tight. She then told me about her life - married to a 40 year old Japanese guy when she was 22 who changed right after marriage so she got divorced. Then dating a Brit guy who died of liver cancer at the age of 40. This sent alarm bells through my hydrochondriac personality. if he had liver cancer then maybe he had Hepatitis B - a common cause. Hepatitis B is an STD. I did have the hep B vaccine five years ago though and i wore a condom.[...]
What does ethnicity have to do with being "tight" ??
She probably wasn't Taiwanese, as all of them are super tight and super into 40 something Japanese men, which is of course defined by their ethnicity.
14 Taiwanese girls' intensions is to get laid in the pubs
This place sucks, Source: Taiwanese women sucks
I mean most of them, aging 20~28
a bunch of whores who don't appreciate how well they were treated sincerely, they don't give shit about ethics they like to suck cocks of those so called ABC and RICH KIDS or any foreigners that doesn't speak CHINESE. FUCK!
and they try to get laid in the pubs, thats their intensions.
So fucking pathetic and lame, strange creature.
So true! All Taiwanese women go to pubs, because the pubs were initially invented in Taiwan, before the British colonialists stole the concept and brought it to England.
15 Taiwanese women do business transactions
This place sucks, Source: Taiwanese women sucks
I'll give you a huge tip. EVERYTHING is simply a business transaction in Asia. Don't even complain about ethics, it's the rules here. Call it how it is. If you want a TW/HK Girl to open up, or open legs, you need to speak the correct language. The language of love that truly speaks to their Hello Kitty Hearts is Visa, MasterCard, Gucci, or LV. Don't waste time on the Chinese Lessons. Just focus on business and making more money. It's all about reciprocal dating or socially accepted hooking up. Just up your game, and you will have more psycho shao jie than one can handle in a lifetime. Careful, when you fall into this category, they will work hard to close the deal quick (Marriage, Control Money, Babies, Sex, Etc.). TW girls will be either super slow or quick depending on how they can get the upper hand. A last effort is to be an overly sensitive little bitch that will carry their purse while they go shopping. (Refer to TW TV or local Sogo Mall) I have seen many friends fail with this method. It's just not worth the return on the long term investment, because buying face with other people's money is the business and dating strategy. TW/HK girls can be worth it, just know each ones game before making an investment. More importantly, know when to say "next".
So exactly true and truly educational! I couldn't have described Taiwanese females better than this. However, I need to add something important: I bought my wife's Hello Kitty heart with American Express, though. But that's the new generation of Taiwanese women, they don't accept Visa anymore.
16 Taiwanese girls are selfish, insecure emotional vampires
This place sucks, Source: Taiwanese women sucks
i find TW women to be utterly selfish, insecure, and self centered. As I have seen with many couples and unfortunate friends, when they age it's even more nonstop bitching and moaning. The focus just becomes on more money, more eating, more competition to show off to family and friends. You can forget about an exciting sex life. Lately i look at them with a mild disgust, despite some of their physical beauty.
No pussy is worth being constantly drained by these emotional vampires. Funny, with the many new girls I meet here, I aways say to myself "this one is different". LOL! Nope, same shit with a different package. Same movie played over and over.
Amazing conclusions and all so true! I have nothing to add!
17 Taiwanese girls go for easy ABC guys
This place sucks, Source: Taiwanese women sucks
I'm ABC and I love Taiwan. Girls are so easy here and as people have racist attitudes towards whites and blacks, they'll kiss your ass if you're ABC. You do understand why Taiwanese girls go for ABC guys, right? From the day they are born, Taiwanese guys pass on all their negativity and insecurities into the heads of their girls. Taiwanese guys aim to control their girls by putting them down and making them feel ugly and empty inside. They worry that if they say warm positive things to their females that they'll become too confident, realize that their guy is a loser and leave them for some other loser. Western men were very popular with Taiwanese girls in the 80s and 90s. Seeing this all too often, Taiwanese guys became very bitter and jealous and for the last 10 years have been telling their girls that Western men are bad. They give no more reasons than that, just that Western men are bad. Instead of improving themselves, Taiwanese guys have to tell girls that other guys are worse than they are. Taiwanese guys don't realize that many of their girls cheat on them with ABC guys. The girls like us as we're much more charming, interesting, funny and better looking as their own pussy guys. Me and my other ABC buddies always used to come over to Taiwan for the summer for the girls; they loved us! Then they went back to their weak little pussy Taiwan boyfriends.
Yes! Taiwanese women love ABCs. It's in their nature to feel compassion with those, who need to leave their country in order to get a little love.
18 Taiwanese girls wish to be Japanese
This place sucks, Source: Taiwanese women sucks
TW girls... as far as I know, they wish they were japanese. When they speak, to differentiate their MANDARIN from what their Chinese cousins over in the mainland, they always speak in a really fake ass Japanese wannabe tone. It's so fucking lame. I know I know, there's a bit of history of Japanese occupation of TW, but you don't see Koreans, as cocky as they can be sometimes, completely idolizing another nationality to a point of basically copying them. It's funny how TW wants to be recognized as its own state, with its own nationality, but in the end, all their pride is nothing more than a facade, an image. And if the Japs have an attractive image, they'd rather become semi-Japanese. That's fucking lame dude. That's not pride, that's just ignorance and a lack of self-worth.
So true! Taiwanese girls commonly wear kimono, eat sushi most of the time and uncontrollably giggle, when they see a man.
19 Taiwanese women frequently have fuller bottoms
Escape Artist, Source: Differences Between China And Taiwan
One very noticeable difference between China and Taiwan is that Taiwanese women frequently have fuller bottoms. I'’ve only been in the country a month, so my studies on the issue are hardly authoritative, yet the difference is pronounced. Fuller – not especially in the width and height dimensions; it’s in the depth department, in that mysterious and so hard to draw z axis. Is it a sign of more affluence in Taiwan, that greater comfort and security allows women’s bottoms to flesh out?
Perhaps, but I am increasingly of the opinion that many women here are flaunting their bottoms, sticking them out a fraction, even carrying them with a knowing swagger.
Good observations! That's because Taiwanese girls eat a lot of papayas.
20 Taiwanese women's breath stinks a bit
Forumosa, Source: *Serious Discussion* Taiwanese Girls vs HK Girls
Taiwanese women like stinky tofu and pig's trotter which makes their breath stink a bit.
Taiwanese women are good at Tai Kwon Do but suck at Wing Chun.
Taiwanese women are far less arrogant and tend to have a sense of inferiority; having no really great celebrities such as Hong Kong Fuey, Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee to make themselves feel better about being Taiwanese. (by user Tommy525)
Oh, they don't only like stinky tofu! They love it! The stinky breath is considered an aphrodisiac in Taiwanese culture. Combined with a Tai Kwon Do performance, you will not be able to resist a Taiwanese girl's charms, even if she only does this to make herself feel better.
Now that you've read what foreign experts say, you must be truly speechless. Believe me, when I've read all this, I was speechless, too. I couldn't be prouder of these foreign men, who are so knowledgeable and come to Taiwan to research our women and help to spread around the globe all the best qualities of Taiwanese girls, so that peoples of the world know exactly how our women are. Maybe some of these experts didn't hit the nail on the head from time to time, because they spent too much time in the gym in Puerto Plata, but all in all you have a priceless treasure of highly intellectual conclusions about the lovely ladies of Taiwan.
Note to Taiwanese: 親愛的台灣朋友們：這篇文章當然是開玩笑的，我真正的意思跟我所寫的完全相反。我討厭這些在網路上散播無知言論且讓我們這些正常人看起來很糟的外國蠢蛋。在我的下一篇文章裡，我將會以同個標題寫出我個人的觀點，並試著寫出更接近台灣女性的真實面相。
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34 KAFKAESQUE COMMENTS:
At first, I was so shocked that how dare you post this article. lol.
October 19, 2011 1:11 AM
@Hipper: I'm glad you read it til the end, as the small Chinese part is very important. But those who know me well, will know what I mean to say by this post without reading it :)~
October 19, 2011 1:23 AM
Thanks for all your posts.
They are more than sharing to me, but having the reponse to what I think at the same time. :)
What those 'experts' say isn't the first time for me to find out. I don't like that too. There are so many people treating each other and other people unequally. I believe they won't do things the same to their friends, to people in their hometowns. To me, it is always disappointing, but it always happenes especially when people are from various and different culture backgrounds. I've also heard of the other sides, from the local to non-citizens, from the non-citizens to the local, the words are different for sure, but in this same way. I don't stand for any sides, and I don't support any sides, 'cause it means nothing. To me, the fact isn't at any sides, but beyond borders, so I don't use the word called 'foreign.' We are all the same kind of animal. However, on the other side, all those words needn't be sad as well. They are like the process of learning, the process of being on the way to the reality.
They (not only what is referred by this post, but all sayings like this from all parts) are not describing the fact. But still have much value for thinking too, 'cause it represents the reflections of their minds of misunderstanding. It's like when people put on the pink glasses, what they see are only in pink, even what the real colors are actually not. However, the good thing is, whatever what colors of the glasses are, the sky can only be violet and blue, and roses can only be beautifully red. And there are people having no glasses for sure. They actually enjoy the life and this world. And this always makes me happy and appreciated.
October 19, 2011 3:16 AM
I was really shocked when reading the article, wondering "Is this post written by MKL? Is he kidnapped by aliens?" until I read the note at the end... :P
Thanks for gathering this forum posts. I'm really looking forward to your next post!
October 19, 2011 12:16 PM
darn it i was like "Nino you're wife is so going to kill you" until i read thru the whole thing. good work collecting all those posts. :P
October 19, 2011 3:25 PM
I am glad I am not following those forums...
Still, by carefully selecting the blogs I follow (yours) I can see what I am missing, obviously not much.
October 19, 2011 4:39 PM
@suinfinitor: Wow, thank you for your awesome comment. I'm happy you shared this with us, it's one of the best comments I've gotten recently. Truly thank you. I agree with you in every point.
@Jenny: Ha! Shock was one of my intentions, but also I didn't wanna go too far, so I asked my wife to help me write in Chinese and clarify it to my dear Taiwanese friends, that I find these statements laughable, to say the least.
@Halden: Hahaha.. no no, she helped me, when I was putting it together. When I write these kinds of longer and possibly controversial posts, I consult with her, ask for opinion. If she thinks it's too crazy, I drop it :)
@Arnaud: It was for me the first time I truly took some time and went through all this nonsense found online. I will try to explain it in my next post and also go into the issue with my own viewpoints. Thanks for reading my blog :)
October 19, 2011 10:55 PM
LOL! I suspected this was a joke. But to tell the truth, I think its ridiculous how cuteness is defined in Taiwan. It is as if it's been influenced by the Japanese suppa-kyutta (super cute) syndrome. Plus the way young Taiwanese girls get obsessed with cuteness and superficial things... well, what can I say.
October 20, 2011 1:26 PM
no yelling and screaming?? most of them i would say! erm... still malaysian girls are better XD lol
October 22, 2011 10:44 PM
I would like to tell you that this post is not really wise...maybe you think it's ironic, but remember many people may NOT read through the entire article!!!! My friend forwarded me this article since he just read the very beginning part... as a taiwanese, I STRONGLY suggest you to make an obvious sign/note/warm IN ENGLISH to let the readers know you guys are actually joking here. I understand you meant nothing bad, but it is really easy to cause readers to believe what you guys talking here.
Keep writing! Let those EXPERTS know the TRUTH!
October 26, 2011 12:49 AM
@Jo: You have a point, but not all girls are like this. Many are... but a lot of them are not :)
@TW人: If people don't read through the entire article, is that my problem? The whole point of this post is to mislead my readers, to make them wonder and then at the end I added a disclaimer in Chinese. And if you read through the comments, you quickly realize, that I meant something completely different. Thanks for your comment, but I won't add any warnings, because it would spoil the whole point of the post. One of the ideas here was to show how shallow and prejudgemental people can be when they talk about Taiwanese girls. It's same with this post: If some people don't read till the end and see the sarcasm and the real meaning, they're hardly better than them. :)
October 26, 2011 8:30 AM
I suppose. =)
October 27, 2011 6:51 PM
Thanks for the funny post. It gave me a good laugh. You got some great insights :D
November 11, 2011 2:15 AM
@Jo: :)
@La Chinita: Hehe.. glad you got the point fast, some of my readers were shocked first :P
November 13, 2011 11:13 AM
This is hillarious. Especially the bit about "Puerto Plata" made me laugh out like not many blogs ever have. Thanks for taking the time and so meticulously posting this.
Your Chinese disclaimer at the end, however, shows that you do not put much faith in Taiwanese' ability to understand irony. Rightly so, maybe, since there is afaik not even an adequate translation for "irony" in Chinese. (Most people seem to think it is 諷刺, which is "to ridicule" and has a very negative connotation.)
Why did you post the disclaimer in Chinese and not in English? Because you think only Taiwanese readers need this explanation, or because you like the idea of some foreigners not getting your point and taking this post at face value?
November 15, 2011 9:01 AM
This was very entertaining to read. Thanks =P I'm an ABC girl myself and I think it's interesting how foreigners view typical Taiwanese girls because I actually do have similar perceptions as them regarding some of the topics mentioned.
November 15, 2011 1:30 PM
I resemble these remarks. I've never yelled or screamed when I was beaten off by sticks by white men I automatically stick to within my vicinity, even if you're incredibly ugly. I speak mandarin with a Japanese accent, without knowing any Japanese. and, I can somehow can be hot in bed despite bad stinky tofu breath and keeping shirt on fetish, which I know you white guys love. Hand over the Gucci, there's a good boy.
November 15, 2011 5:18 PM
@Klaus: You have a point. It's not that I don't put my faith into their understanding of sarcasm, but I knew this post will get a lot of attention from the Taiwanese online community (and I was right), who don't know my way of writing and I wanted to prevent misunderstandings at all costs, because these things get shared a lot. Today I saw someone translated the whole post in Chinese and they are discussing it. I didn't want that I become the point of discussion and luckily that hasn't happened. And if you see the first few comments, even some English speaking Taiwanese friends thought I am serious until they saw the disclaimer... that saved me a lot of time explaining this over and over again... Sarcasm in English might not be so easy to get for some people... not even for me at times. For my non-Taiwanese readers I didn't bother to write the disclaimer, because I didn't really care if they understand or not, but I think most of them did :)
@mysarita88: Thanks :) Sure some things reflect the reality in some parts, but I believe they are not what foreigners should associate with first when they think about Taiwanese girls.
@Grace: I don't have Gucci, but do you take LV?
November 18, 2011 3:54 AM
I think you had wasted a lot of time giving so much space to that collection of what? Can I blame those who had attacked your post? Some of your own accompanying comments sound like what? Do you expect your readers to play along when your own comments are neither here nor there? It is not a question of sarcasm or the failure to appreciate. If you yourself can't even make clear what you were wanting to say, sarcasm or not, other than that lame disclaimer in Mandarin at the end of the post you can expect some people will misunderstand you. You can't complain buddy! You got as good as you gave!
November 20, 2011 12:37 AM
@ordinary malaysian: So basically you want to say that you completely don't understand sarcasm and you want to say it's my fault? And in addition you're also ignorant enough to disregard disclaimers and a vibrant discussion in the comment section that shows exactly what I meant? All this happened way before some loser translated this into Chinese and completely distorted my point (skipped disclaimer and comments, even though he seems to be fluent in English). If you write another comment like the one above I will make sure that none of yours will ever appear on my blog. I'm sick on this stupidity, I tell you frankly!
November 20, 2011 4:37 PM
Thank you man!
I took your warning serious and left Taiwan before it was too late.
Different to you, I never got to the wedding thing, because her dad hated me and the engagement was never recognize. I will keep my distance to Taiwan now.
November 24, 2011 11:23 PM
Some of you guys need stop acting hurt over this. I thought it was rather obvious that this post was full of sarcasm and irony. I'm 16 years of age and even I understand the message he's trying to convey. Also, I happen to be a Taiwanese girl! Believe me, this post doesn't offend us Taiwanese girls at all. He even stated his intentions right at the beginning! It's the people that chose to misinterpret this purposely causing all the trouble.
December 21, 2011 3:36 AM
@Unknown: I feel sorry for you. But don't apply your personal experience to the whole of Taiwan.
@May: Glad you understand. I even used silly pictures and bold font to highlight the stupidity. I guess some still didn't get it.
December 29, 2011 10:03 PM
I think you should make your disclaimer in English as well. I find it interesting that a male foreigner in Taiwan making this type of post and disclaim it in Chinese.
January 18, 2012 1:00 AM
@WillYp777: Don't blame it on me, if you don't understand the point.
January 18, 2012 2:55 AM
Great post, I really got a kick out of reading this. Thanks for the tips, now I know I need to bring some extra cash since I'm a 40 lbs over weight ugly American! haha
Really, no one should be offended by this. All the best comedians in the world poke fun at their own stereotypes. Look at at acts like Cheech and Chong or Eddie Murphy. If we took ever word they said as gospel we would think everyone smokes weed or eats chicken. Oh wait...
Anyway, thanks for making me laugh!
March 9, 2012 1:40 AM
@Anonymous: Thanks for the nice comment :)
April 1, 2012 12:34 PM
This was a great post! Just love it! I was doubting from the first few sentences that you're actually being serious here :D. But well done!
April 9, 2012 11:06 PM
@Anonymous: Thanks. I'm always happy, if people get my humor from the start.
April 10, 2012 10:48 PM
I know the chinese statement in the end says "this all is a joke". But i am in a relation with a taiwanese girl and almost most of these things are true.
She only cares about her career, her life and dont consider my side of the story. Her father hates me, her mother cant make up her mind and her brother is cheeting on his fiancee.
The whole family have no morals and lie about everything. I am tired, drained of $$, and am thinking seriously of getting out before i get married to her.
Taiwan is a beautiful place with lots of nightlife, restaurants, nightmarkets, and my life there would have been fun. But after knowing my taiwanese gf, i hate asian girls. I am better off in Australia.
I offered her everything but she has been keeping me on hook for an year now and cant make up her mind about marring me.
I think its better if i end this relationship.
I have found Taiwan guys to be sissy, girls to be whores and old people to be selfish farts.
F...U Taiwan
April 30, 2012 4:44 PM
I'm Taiwanese American, and I can easily say that half of this stuff is false. Very false. Although, the dominance is completely true.
May 8, 2012 2:03 PM
Your last note in English is still showing supports to all those non-sense you summarized from other forum = =.
Maybe you think people will understand your sarcasm or notice the underlying meaning of "treasure of highly intellectual conclusions", but I am sure for most of those who can't read chinese, they will still believe all the taiwanese girls are just like what is described in this article >:(
Don't just write a chinese notes to calm the taiwanese down, you should also write a note in English to declare your true intention for writing this article(just like the note you worte in chinese)
Otherwise this article is too insulting!!!there are always physco, sluts and whores in every contry, you can't put all these labels on all taiwanese girls.
May 10, 2012 9:47 PM
and from reading the comments, it's obvious that people interpret your post differently. Although there are people (many of them know you personally) thinks you mean no harm to Taiwanese girls, but many of them believe all the offensive statements are true.
You shouldn't be blaming all those that warn you to write down a better disclaimer. Because it is true that your intention wasn't clearly stated, and this article is quite misleading. The last english statment and chinese statment is contradicting each other.
I want to believe you mean no harms to anyone, but from reading this articles many times, it gives me the impression that you are tricking people. Making the taiwanese thinks you are just summarizing a bunch of ridiculous statements that is not true. At the same time, letting all the foreigners knows that everything is actually true (by not putting the chinese disclaimer also in English).
May 10, 2012 10:04 PM
@Pam: The whole post is the opposite of what I think, not only the last part. It should be obvious from the text, if not, it should be clear in the comments.
I'm not showing any support for the things said, I'm ridiculing those who I quote in this article.
You have no right to tell me what I "should" do, I'm also not telling you what you should do. People were offended before, mostly Taiwanese, hence I wrote the disclaimer. The English speakers were not offended and I don't see the need to write another disclaimer, it would destroy the point of my post, which was - sarcasm. Those who GET this post, think it's brilliant. Those who DON'T GET it, complain and give me tips. That's the downside of art, not everybody gets it.
May 11, 2012 12:16 AM
Post a Kafkaesque comment!