Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Trieste/Trst, Italy

Italy's second biggest port


Trieste (Slovenian Trst, we pronounce it as Terst) is a bigger city in Italy and very close to Slovenia, especially close to Koper, where we came from, before we arrived in this Italian coastal town. What is Trieste famous for? Well, it's currently the 2nd biggest Italian port (after Genova) and it's the most eastern city in northern Italy. Trieste has today around 208.000 inhabitants, but it used to have much more in the past. It lost about 1/3 of it's population in recent decades due to several reasons. Trieste used to be one of the most important cities in Europe few centuries ago, but because of the troubled 20th century, it lost its glory and a lot of population, especially the Slovenian. Trieste/Trst bears a special place in the hearts of Slovenians. It used to be the "biggest Slovenian town" in the past. If you want to know why, read the history part.

✰ History of Trieste/Trst

Trieste was known as Tergeste during the Roman times (1st cent. BC), which was the first documented name of the settlement. Interestingly, the name's origin is based on terg- or trg-, which means market in Slovenian and other Slavic languages. After the Roman period, Trieste fell under the rule of several tribes and kingdoms. If you remember from my previous posts, the Slovenian coastal towns Koper, Izola and Piran came under the Venetian rule in the early middle ages, where they flourished, but Trieste on the other hand had fought wars with Venice and refused to accept their domination (although it briefly succumbed in 1369). That spat with Venice led to a petition, where the people of Trieste requested to come under Austria's rule, which subsequently happened in 1382. Trieste remained under Austria until 1918 and so were most parts of Slovenia at that time.

✰ Trieste/Trst and Slovenians

Trieste was for centuries connected with Slovenes. The whole hinterland was always populated by Slovenes and that's true even today. First Slovenes started to settle in the city already in the middle ages and the population peaked in 1910, where Slovenians made 25% of the population of Trieste (which was nearly 60.000 people). At that time Trieste was called "the biggest Slovenian city" (Ljubljana at that time had around 57.000 people and not all of them were Slovenians). In the early 20th century Trieste was home to a lot of Slovenian writers, academics and artists, who left a strong mark on the modern Slovenian culture.

After Trieste came under Italy in 1918, the Italians started to treat the Slovenians (and all other minorities such as Germans and Croats) badly. The rise of the Italian nationalism and fascism with Benito Mussolini in charge led to a forced Italianization of all non Italian minorities. That meant that all names were changed into Italian. If your family name was Antončič, it was changed (or translated) to Antonelli. But not only that, they even changed the family names of Slovenians on gravestones, in order to erase 1000 years of history. Along with this, Slovenian banks and schools were closed. Our teachers and clergymen were forced to leave Slovenian areas and were replaced with Italians (source: Bernard Meares - Slovenians in Trieste). Nationalist gangs, who terrorized and attacked Slovenians, were encouraged by the local government, which led to a tragic event in the history of Trieste: In 1920 they burnt down Narodni dom, a cultural community hall of Slovenians in Trieste (see a photo here). All that forced many Slovenians to exile, especially intellectuals. A lot of them emigrated to North America (in 1971 only 5% of the population of Trieste were Slovenians), today it may be even less.


✰ "Trst je Naš!"

In Slovenia you may find a lot of "Trst je naš!" graffiti. It means "Trieste is ours!" and relates to 1945, where the Yugoslav army (with many Slovenian soldiers) liberated Trieste from German nazis and intended to claim Trieste/Trst as part of Yugoslavia (and subsequently Slovenia). That did not happen, but still many Slovenians today feel it should have.
The Yugoslav army stayed in Trieste and controlled it for 40 days, until they ceased the control to the British and American army. During these 40 days many Italian fascists and nationalists as well as German nazis were tried and prosecuted, a lot of them were killed and disappeared. That was a kind of retaliation for the atrocities before and during the war made by Italians (suppression and forced Italianization).

I don't condone any of the actions made by either side of course and I deeply regret, that so much blood was spilled in those times. I can actually hardly understand them from the perspective of 2010, but those were different times and I'm glad they're over. There are of course many sides of the story, Slovenians have their own version, so have the Italians. And Trieste belongs to whom today? It became part of Italy in 1954, when the joint British-US administration ceded the city to Italy, while Koper, Izola and Piran became part of Yugoslavia (and subsequently Slovenia). A lot of Italians from these Slovenian coastal cities moved to Trieste, while some Slovenians, that came under Italy, moved to Yugoslavia. Trieste lost a lot of Slovenians, while Koper, Izola and Piran lost many Italians. And both groups lived in peace and side by side for centuries. It's really a pity.

I think in the end, everybody lost. Trieste lost it's natural hinterland, because of an unnatural border (see map), while Slovenians lost their cultural and economic center. There is still a lot of Italian nationalism in Trieste today, as well as an anti-Slovenian atmosphere. On the other hand, many Slovenians look at the Italians in the area with contempt. The wounds have not fully healed, even though 65 years passed since the World War II ended. I hope the people forgive each other and their forefathers, but never forget what happened.

✰ Our Trieste

After the smooth ride from Koper to Trieste, I parked the car near the center and we started to walk around and explored the city. Being a Slovenian and knowing the bloody history of the 20th century, I felt a little uneasy about driving and walking around Trieste. But guess what? Nobody horned, nobody cursed me, I had no problems at all. Maybe I was just lucky, because it was in the middle of a scorching day and the city seemed almost empty. And we only spent like 2 hours in Trieste and didn't even eat here. So no funny restaurant stories this time.

This is the Trieste, as we saw it on that hot summer day in August:

The main road, that leads from southern to northern Trieste and passes the center.

The buildings here are massive.

A nice building caught my eyes: Salone degli incanti (exhibition space).

A view inside of a part of Trieste's central area.

We were headed to the majestic Unity Square.

A majestic palace.


Piazza Unita' d'Italia (Italian Unity Square) is in Slovenian called Veliki trg (Great square), because of the square's old name Piazza Grande. This public square is huge! It's the 6th biggest square in Italy and the main square in Trieste. It's really majestic and gives you a big city feeling, although some other parts of Trieste feel like a small town.

Piazza Unita' is full of historic palaces.

There are two huge flag poles in the square called "I pili portabandiera".

A bronze statue near the sea.

My girl on the Piazza Unita' d'Italia in Trieste. She totally rocks it ;-)

Lloyd Triestino palace.

La Prefettura, the seat of the local government.

La Prefetture closeup.

A café on the Piazza Unita'.

The town hall of Trieste from close.

The town hall is called "il Palazzo del Comune" in Italian.

A huge fountain named "La fontana del bergamasco Domenico Mazzoleni"

Near the town hall is a famous spot for pigeons.

We walked on to another square nearby, which is full of cafés and boutiques.

The current Chamber of Commerce in the shape of a neo-classical temple.

A fountain of Neptune, the God of the sea in the Roman mythology.

Typical Italian likes to ride a scooter. So does the typical Taiwanese.

We turned right here to go back to the old center.

The old Roman theater (Teatro Romano).

A church.

Then we entered the old medieval center of Trieste.

And we saw some lovely Italian bellezzas.

We didn't stay long here, we slowly walked back to our car.

A funny thing happened, when my girlfriend and I took a lot of photos of the buildings, an Italian man, who walked hand in hand with his girlfriend, passed by and told his partner: "Questo è Trieste!" (Which means "This is Trieste!"). I don't know what was his point, maybe that Trieste is so great, that tourist snap tons of pics? Or maybe, that we looked so cosmopolitan? Lol. No idea, but it was a funny moment to me.

A smaller church on the way back.

Cafés and restaurants.

Old residential buildings.

We turned left after this statue and we were close to the car again.

The Lanterna di Trieste, main lighthouse of Trieste.

Lighthouse closeup.

The symbol of Trieste is this old anchor.

My lovely car waiting for us to take off. Next stop: Gorizia/Gorica.

It's funny that, the parking places in Trieste have ticket machines, which have a menu in Italian, English, German, French, but no Slovenian. Guess which foreign registry plates on cares were most common? Slovenian. That disappointed me a little. But all in all, Trieste was a positive surprise. It's pretty interesting and very big, full of history. I would certainly need 2 days to explore the center thoroughly, 2 hours were too little, but it gave me a good impression. As a Slovenian I now know how Trieste looks in 2010. Now I'm able to put some historic things into perspective. Will I revisit? Definitely yes one day.

My rating of Trieste/Trst:

Great place for photos ✰✰✰✰
Well preserved and clean ✰✰✰✰✰
Toilets, parking, souvenirs ✰✰✰✰✰
Friendly to tourists ✰✰✰✰✰
[My Slovenia page][All photos by MKL, 2010, except the first]

20 KAFKAESQUE COMMENTS:

Hannah said...

aww it looks gorgeous, lovely photos


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xx

September 15, 2010 8:01 PM  

Carina the Blogarina said...

You have love Italia is it so beautiful! I don't think you should be disappointed in the lack of Slovenian in the ticket machines. After all, English, German and French are the world languages... There are probably just standardized.

I didn't know that part of Slovenian/ Italian history... It kind of reminds of Greece and Turkey's dispute of Cyprus. I think if one country has had suverenity for 50 + years, we should accept that land as part of that country.

What does you license plate say??? lol

September 15, 2010 8:38 PM  

the girl in stiletto said...

i wished i was somewhere in italy, sipping some italian coke, watching the italians walking by. or italian policemen. i just wished i was elsewhere :(

September 15, 2010 9:03 PM  

MKL said...

@Hannah: Thank you.

@Carina: It's not about those languages being world languages, if you read my history part, I mentioned that the whole hinterland of Trieste is Slovenian, either in Slovenia or close to Trieste, where our ethnic minority lives. And if you see my Koper post, you would see that everything's bilingual (Slovenian/Italian), even though the percentage of Italians living there is way smaller than Slovenians living in and around Trieste. It looks like a small problem, but it is not. Slovenians are not treated well there, that's what we usually hear in the news. And this is just one of the things that makes you wonder...

@Ejann: Aw.. poor you. Come to Maribor, let's have coffee and a long chat :)

September 15, 2010 9:09 PM  

Karen said...

Lovely pictures of Trieste. I've seen so many pictures of Italy and really want to visit that country sometime soon ;)
I love how so many buildings are white there because it makes it look very clean and European-esque (to me!). I love the designs and intricate patterns on some of the walls of the buildings...and the fountains give the city a romantic flare IMO.
I know, that's very very unfortunate about the Trieste's historical past regarding how they mistreated Slovenians. To me, it seems like they are still holding a bitter grudge against Slovenians and one small reminder is by not having Slovenian as a language on the ticket machines - seeing how they have a few other languages on menu other than just Italian. Others like Carina may overlook it but to me, I think it's very blatant that they did this.
Oh well, like you said, at least you weren't mistreated while there. I know you said you were only there for 2 hours....but Slovenians look different than Italians so you would stand out.
Wow, that dude's shorts are short on the scooter! I know he's sitting down but still! I heard European men wear tighter clothes and shorter shorts...and that they are generally smaller/thinner built than Canadian/Americans in general.

September 15, 2010 10:13 PM  

... daisy... said...

First THANK you to have written a post about an Italian city! I haven't been there but I know some Triestini and I like them quite a lot. I think unlike people from my region they are much more open minded... I loved the pictures and actually I would love to answer your question about the Italian man and his comment, but I have no clue... Some Italians are "that" proud of their cities and they often make fools of themselves in front of visitors!

Your girlfriend is really beautiful and I love her outfit on that picture! She looks really smashing!

September 15, 2010 11:09 PM  

MKL said...

@Karen: Yes, Trieste is really interesting and with many beautiful spots. I haven't seen enough, though, so hope I can return. Well, we don't look so different, although I do, since I'm blond Nordic type. But they saw my car, my number plate is Slovenian, but I still had no problems :)

@Daisy: If I had the chance to travel around Italy, you can be sure I would blog about everything :) I have been in Venezia in 1996 and really loved it. So this is my second time in Italy and I was pleasantly surprised. You know, it's one thing to hear stuff from media and another to see in real. I'm glad that people were friendly and that "Questo e Trieste" was a funny, I didn't take it as embarrassment, but more as a compliment. And as I said, I was full with Slovenian history, when I went there and a little fear that the traffic might be crazy, but in Trieste it was pretty fine, cuz the city was empty. But I nearly had one car crashing into mine, when I drove out of Trieste towards Monfalcone. Guess who that was? A German tourist.... Phew... that was really a close call, I was shaking. More about that next time. All in all I was pleasantly surprised with Trieste and especially Gorizia, but didn't spend enough time to encounter some Triestini. I'm sure there are many cool young people :)

September 15, 2010 11:28 PM  

... daisy... said...

Oh my God! Beware of German drivers! I had an accident once and from then on I avoid them or I keep a safer distance...

September 15, 2010 11:45 PM  

fufu said...

now i know why i would mention some of the places you posted before look like Italian :)

ops... nice square, palace, town hall, streetscape, etc!!! argh...i miss europe!

September 16, 2010 7:51 AM  

Jess said...

super super super pretty place! when i go there one day (yes i will, i know it!) i'd run straight into a flock of pigeons! have oways wanted to do it since i was young hehe.
love those cathedral-like churches too. Booootiful <3

September 16, 2010 11:38 AM  

Gnetch said...

I almost forgot that Italy is one of the places I'd like to visit. Thanks for reminding me. It's really pretty over there and sadly, I only get to see it in pictures.

September 16, 2010 12:16 PM  

Carina the Blogarina said...

@ MKL: I DID read the history party, I still don't think that it is such a big deal. I'm sorry. That is my opinion. Like I said, maybe they are standardized. I don't know why in Koper they do list it in Italian as well, maybe they are more concerned with attracting and making it easier and more homely for tourists from the neighboring country then what the Italians are. Maybe Slovenians are more courteous..I don't know. How ever, if reports are that Slovenians are being mistreated in that are then this is a shame. I wouldn't say they are based on the lack of Slovenian signs though. But you said there were stories so I suspect there is more..

September 16, 2010 7:59 PM  

ChinkyGirLMeL said...

Wow, thanks for all this information and the picture overload. Now I need to save more because this place goes in my list of places to visit before I die. =)

September 16, 2010 8:42 PM  

Joan the Black Iris said...

How did you put your blog link on every picture submitted? Is there a quicker way than typing it on the pictures via Paint?

September 16, 2010 9:21 PM  

Pop Champagne said...

oh how pretty, like always. hah you want great place for photos and you gave it a 4? wait till you come to ottawa someday, there's like no pretty historical buildings around here other than parliament hill to take pics of!

September 17, 2010 11:38 PM  

MKL said...

@Daisy:

@Fufu: Hehe.. come back to Europe soon, ya.

@Gnetch: Italy is really beautiful.

@Carina: It's a big deal for Slovenians, but generally speaking it might not be a big deal. But every country has some complicated matters that may seem odd to others, right? :)

@Mel: Picture overload indeed "-_-

@Joan the Black Iris: The blog link in the photo is called "watermark". I'm using Photoshop and do that manually also because I make all my pics same size (680px wide). You also have websites online, where you can watermark your pics. Try to google.

@Pop Champaigne: Well, my standards are high ;)

September 19, 2010 7:08 AM  

Netster said...

why is it that these places are so clean? I haven't spotted any rubbish from your pictures!

I really must visit this place someday! yeah someday!

I think I would prefer to visit when the sun is not too bright...

your car plate number is awesome bro! how did you get that?

October 2, 2010 1:47 AM  

MKL said...

@Netster: Most parts of Central Europe are clean, bro. We're train to not litter all over the place :) And that licence plate is Photoshopped :P

October 2, 2010 1:53 AM  

Daniel said...

Hi there :)

Trieste has always had a large majority of Italian speaking people, so I think that it is natural it belongs to Italy today. Slovenians have always been a minority so it wouldn't have been fair to include the city into Slovenia.

Anyway, I really enjoyed your report and I'm really looking forward to visiting Trieste, Gorizia and Slovenia :)

August 27, 2011 11:37 PM  

MKL said...

@Daniel: I would not like to discuss what would be fair or not, it's very relative in the issue of Trieste. Trieste has a very special place in history of Slovenians, while it's just an average mid-sized city in Italy. Anyway, enjoy your stay here :)

August 28, 2011 12:05 AM  


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